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Good job on the movie. The music sux but the editing is nice. The jumps are impressive..if they are on default settings. The creator doesnt state whether p_move fixed command was used or not. Which makes me assume it was. Any ET trickjumpin movie with p_move fixed used is garbage.
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i had pmove_fixed 1 server settings was default. Walking In the Air 2, Trickjumping in Enemy Territory!
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Damn 2 bad for the pmove_fixed 1 :(
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why its so bad if i use pmove_fixed 1? =/ then com_maxfps should b default 2 =) (i have radeon 9200 and my fps is about 20 - 40 all a time.) Walking In the Air 2, Trickjumping in Enemy Territory!
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Homer

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HaHa!! Knew some of those jumps werent on default movement settings. Any settings change concerning movement makes yer jumps MUCH MUCH less impressive.
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pmove artificually increases game movement. It is not default, and was added in later to help out people with poor fps. The origional trick jumpers did not use it, but recent people have. Jumps that were very difficult became easier with pmove_fixed 1. It basically allows you to strafe jump without actually strafe'in. Some servers set this server side, and its like playing with lower gravity and increased speed. On competitve servers such as locked box, pmove server side is off.

Trick Jumpers from ages ago create their speed by strafing in the quake engine. /pmove_fixed does most of the work for the person.

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Posted: 4.10.05 @ 5:41 PM

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people with poor fps like me.. i have played defrag (TrickJump mod) in Q3 over 1 year, so i can strafe. but with 20-40 fps its not so easy. so i use pmove_fixed 1 like i should with poor fps?
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nice jumps
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2LAGGY4LIFE(FA)

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Dudes. Pmove_fixed 1 is used in all ET tj movies. Yes, I can detect if it's used, even they say it's not. And NO, those jumps aren't easy even with pmove_fixed 1 on. Go ahead, try. I would like to see some uber jumps by you without pmove_fixed 1. Demos! Not avis, avis cant prove it.
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cipher

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from one jumper to another, you have my total respect. you pull off alot of sick stuff, backwards even. as long as you didnt fuck with msec, i see no problem with pmove. my only gripe is id like to see more 1st person views. anyways, id recommend this vid to anyone that wants to see et tricking at the next level.
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cipher wrote:

from one jumper to another, you have my total respect. you pull off alot of sick stuff, backwards even. as long as you didnt fuck with msec, i see no problem with pmove. my only gripe is id like to see more 1st person views. anyways, id recommend this vid to anyone that wants to see et tricking at the next level.

I dun even know what's that msec thing :P
Pmove_fixed 1 is the only setting we have changed. All jumps don't even need it. :)

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Posted: 4.27.05 @ 2:14 PM

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Come on now, KP. You guys have two great vids, but you aren't fooling anybody saying you didn't use pmove_fixed 1 for a few of the jumps.

The original trickjumpers DID use pmove_fixed 1 (maybe you guys didn't, but you weren't the original tj'ers :p) and the best trickjumpers still do, it evens the playing field; a jump shouldn't be about how steady your FPS is, it should be how good you can execute, if jumps are too easy with pmove_fixed 1, then it isn't pmove_fixed fault, you simply need to do harder jumps.

pmove_msec changed to anything else but 8 isn't cool; and I'm not impressed with any video that uses it. Pmove_fixed is in Q3, it wasn't added in after the fact :P

I'm downloading the video now.

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Posted: 5.6.05 @ 3:26 PM

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BTW, on LB it is off because it has been replaced by bani...imagine that :)

Also, it doesn't artificially increase anything, it stabilizes. It forces pmove_msec to increment appropriately.

The engine steps every 8 milliseconds for physics calculation.

For every second, the engine takes 125 steps (1000/8 - which means, 1000 milliseconds are in a second, divide that by 8 to calculate the steps). The engine goes through with calculations and the error rate is constant for every second. It is pretty stupid to complain about a setting that completely evens out the jumping playing field...why should trickjumping be exclusive to those that have cards good enough to keep a constant rate of 125 (or 76, 43, etc).

After watching the vid, my comments: It probably would have been more appropriate to call it "sdrawkcaB enodeR". It was enjoyable, the original jumps were very entertaining. Quality was good enough, music was good, jumps were decent (excellent, in light of not using unknown customs). A B+ rating from me :) Good job guys! Hope to see you jumpin' in RTCW2.

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Posted: 5.6.05 @ 3:33 PM
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cipher

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haha gotta love jinx... the video owns and you know it. give props where props are due ;)
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fat low grav
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heh.. if u say so ^^ Walking In the Air 2, Trickjumping in Enemy Territory!
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Low Grav bitch!
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riiight.. gravity was default =) Walking In the Air 2, Trickjumping in Enemy Territory!
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KP Homer

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I just read this thread.

1. Nice vid.

2. Me <3 Jinx, but yer wrong jinx. Not one of the jumps in the KP movies was made using
pmove fixed or nofatigue. Not one. I can show demos to anyone who argues with that fact.

3. Some people dont like using pmoved fixed and other settings...others dont mind using them
at all. It a matter of opinion. However, it would be hard to argue that jumps are more impressive
when made without the help given from those settings.

Homer.

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Posted: 7.22.05 @ 3:52 PM

KP Homer

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opps. edit. Meant to say: It would be hard to argue with the fact that jumps made without those setting are more impressive. Homer
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What a bunch of fakers saying they don't use pmove or nofatigue:LOL: I just ran these demo's through a tool my friend created, it actually reads out all commands entered while demoing. And I did have a chance to get a'hold of some demo's of their fueldump jumps, these guys are using,

a) Nofatigue
b) Pmove_fixed 3
c) g_gravity 650

and that on a number of jumps, so they'r just fakers, I met one of them on public and I asked him to do the very simple fueldump basejump and they could not even do it on public. So guess that says enough eh.

Sad bunch of wannabees. When you see 'em on public tempt em to pull some of that shit off and you'll expose the scammers in notime.

You guys should have named the movie "Walking with nofatigue while doing lower gravity".

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Posted: 8.20.05 @ 7:53 PM

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wtf is pmove_fixed 3 ?
i thought that u can have only pmove 1 or 0..
enyways.. as i said, i had pmove_fixed 1 but we had default gravity.. btw.. i know only 1 person who writes :LOL: in hes every text he make.. and hes rastafari =) and u want to tell that where did u get those demos =D u hacked them ? what ever.. think what u want =)
and btw.. let ur friend know that he need to fix that prog =)

Walking In the Air 2, Trickjumping in Enemy Territory!

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Posted: 8.21.05 @ 4:19 PM
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I be watching vid too, it looking fake too, and hardy, you maybe paranoid to think you have stalker, i know lots o' people who write :LOL: or even :ROFL: in their sentences. You not that important to have own private stalker or maybe you wishings you was:) Me think that just many trickjumper see vid for what it througly is, tweaked of jumps hosted on own server.
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